Colin Solves Your Problems 11: SLS and SLES

Jean writes:

The old one about SLS and SLES I have tried using products with more, allegedly, greener detergents but my skin reacts to them, itching and dryness, but when I use products with the above detergent, I don’t have a problem. Is it because , although It is claimed that SLS and SLES are harsher on the skin, the composition of the products by bigger companies, who seem to spend a lot of money on formulations, are better and more complex allowing for a gentler finished product? I have come to the conclusion that a detergent is a detergent and maybe it is best just to use a good soap made with oils and sodium hydroxide. Love your site for info, very informative. I am sick of all the scaremongering sites and wonder whether the people who write some of this stuff realise how daft they look.

 

Hello Jean,

This is a really interesting question, thanks for raising it. I think you have basically worked out what is going on. You’ve joined up the dots but let me fill in the picture.  SLS is short for sodium lauryl sulphate and SLES is short for sodium laureth sulphate.  SLS and SLES are certainly irritating to the skin, and are used in research for this very purpose. They interfere with the structure of the topmost layers of the skin making it more porous, so the water escapes too quickly and your skin gets dry.

So on the face of it they sound like a bad choice for skincare. But there is a twist. If you look at the degree of irritation they cause, it behaves rather strangely. At low concentrations you get more irritation than at higher levels. This is because they detergent molecules form spherical structures called micelles when there are enough of them. By mixing different detergents you can come up with blends that form micelles that are almost non-irritant to most people. So with a bit of experimenting you can make very mild formulations with theoretically very irritating ingredients.

Formulating with the products that meet the approval of the lovers of the natural is much harder work because you don’t have as many options for creating micelles. I don’t want to knock the natural product sector too much. They do provide an alternative and it is good to try different ways of doing things. But I have to say most of the products are in fact rubbish, especially ones that have been certified to organic standards. I don’t think your experience of them is at all unusual and I am sure that is the main reason sales of organic and natural products are falling. People still like the idea, they just don’t like the unpleasant experience of actually using them.

Soap is the main cleanser I use, but it does dry the skin a bit. Personally I put up with it because it isn’t that big a problem for me, but some people do prefer milder options and we are all different.

Thanks for your kind comments about my blog. As to whether the scaremongers realise how daft they look, I don’t know but if they don’t it isn’t for want of me telling them.

All the best
Colin

Postscript – I do think that there are other alternatives to SLS and SLES.  Here is a post I wrote on the subject back in 2008 back in the days when only my Mum read my blog and which I don’t think anyone has visited since.

Why you should avoid SLS and SLES

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9 Responses to Colin Solves Your Problems 11: SLS and SLES

  1. Lise says:

    Great post Colin. You have an uncanny ability to explain complicated things in laymens terms without sounding like you are talking down to people. Thanks! :)

  2. Ed says:

    Great post :-)

    Are sales of organic and natural personal care products falling in the UK?

    I’d be surprised if they were.

  3. Colin says:

    We can all be surprised sometimes Ed.

    The market is so fragmented that you can’t really get proper figures, but I think there are fewer people out there actually seeking out natural products. Are you going to be at the Natural and Organic Show at Olympia at all this year?

  4. Ed says:

    We are at Olympia this year – so pop on by.

    Might be worth checking out the Soil Association report which found an increase of 8.7% in organic cosmetic sales for 2011:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/mar/02/organic-products-sales-uk-fall

    And also chat about the increases in sales for natural personal care from non-certified companies such as Ren.

    Organic Monitor are at the show – they might have some up to date figures.

    So, would be surprised if sales for natural and organic were falling – but happy to be proved wrong.

  5. Kate says:

    Colin, I love your blog! Consider me a new fan! Nothing wrong with some SLS but it does leave my skin dry sometimes, so I do like to rub some natural oils on my skin before using an SLS product.

    Cheers,
    Kate

  6. Sir
    This is not a comment but a request. I’m in my seventies (still fit) and without going into too many details, I have an old yet highly relevant formula for making a high quality conditioning SOLID SHAMPOO (bar) . I might yet decide to make and supply on a small scale. (It’s Not a SOAP shampoo bar containing alkali)
    Obviously, I don’t want to publicise the formula. Unfortunately, it contains 65 per cent sodium lauryl sulphate that needs to be replaced.
    Perhaps seven per cent cocosulfate and the remained disodium lauryl succinate?
    Can you suggest any alternative, preferably without ANY sulfates?
    Your advice would be greatly appreciated.
    Sincerely
    W.H.M

  7. Colin says:

    Hello William, you seem to know quite a bit already. I think I should probably be asking your advice. The most obvious part for part replacement for sodium lauryl sulfate would be sodium coocyl isothionate, the main ingredient in Dove. Your suggestion sounds good too, though sodium cocosulfate is very similar indeed to sodium lauryl sulfate. You don’t say why you want to avoid it, but for most purposes cocosulfate and lauryl sulfate are virtually identical.

  8. J says:

    Colin – what is the difference between SLS/SLES and Coconut Soap (as listed in an ingredient in Kirk’s Castile soap [http://www.kirksnatural.com/products/original-bar-soap/])? I’ve read that SLS / SLES is coconut-derived so I wondered if Coconut Soap is just as irritating to the skin or not. Thanks!

  9. Colin says:

    All soap has a tendency to dry the skin out, no matter what type it is. Soap is not the same as SLS/SLES even though both can be derived from coconut oil.

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